Your Walther PPQ might fail to feed. They unveiled a new pistol that they claimed would not only fix the P99s few faults, but would update its already advanced features and appeal to the American market: the Police Pistol Quick Defense, a.k.a, the Walther PPQ. Improper hand placement: Again, this is a common cause when the individual bumps the slide stop up with their thumb while firing and locks the slide to the rear prematurely. ; Bang Pull the trigger. People develop the bad habit of registering their finger on the trigger in the mistaken belief that the little do-hickey is safety.. You never do that. They all grouped much tighter with it. Ordered another Black mamba. Unfortunately, its with the disassembly that I ran into my first real gripe with the PPQ: You have to dry fire the pistol before you can disassemble it. Its from: http://www.spitzlead.com/ I have NOT yet shot any rounds through it so cant comment on it other than its pretty funny . Nonetheless, a couple of compelling criticisms exist with the P99. Some criteria are: Field Test Results for the PPQ M2 4-Inch 9mm for Each of my 10 Criteria: 6. Every gun has an Achilles heel, and for the PPQ its the limited number of aftermarket accessories. Have a gunsmith install them for you. But i still put the P99 as my personal favorite. Look here an we may be able to help you through the process of owning one, or many! Alright, the dragons mouth on the end of the barrel is too awesome to ignore.just saying. Not sorry I bought one. Walther PPQ M2 Tungsten 9mm. Its only stupid if the gun is smarter than the operator. Have you taken it apart and cleaned/lubed it? This is not a small-scale "knock off" of the centerfire models. When the slide is forward, it looks like a normal barrel and you cant tell it is threaded. I put my G19 on a shelf in preference of the PPQ M1. Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell. You dont need to pull the trigger to strip it. BTW there are .22 jacketed bullets, but Im not sure if any are loaded in LR. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Walther P22 Q Variants. Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. That internal hammer setup looks remarkably similar to my S&W M&P22. Dude, its 10 years old with 30,000 rounds. My strong preference is for copper plated bullets though as it limits your exposure to lead. I do like the gun, and purchased it because its the only one Ive found that my arthritic-handed wife can use. PPQ M2 4-INCH 9MM Field Test. Does the Smith/Walther relationship still exist? When Ive increased my distance from the target to around 40 to 50 feet, my groups do widen, but not significantly. I actually think if you give it a chance, youll see that it truly makes better ergonomic sense in terms of speed and keeping the muzzle towards the target. Now I have 2 awesome 9s! I think the main selling point of the Walther 22 is that it does not look like a .22. Ive long been too timid to say it, but yes, agree. hey guys in this video i show you how to fix the walther PPK slide when it starts to jam up on you.. not me, ever since my p22 frame cracked and walther claimed it was outside its lifespan (10yrs old, prob 30k rounds, but i didnt tell them round count) i choose not to buy pot metal guns, or support walther for bunk biz practices. fits a womans small to medium-sized hands Wow. I had recent PPQ M2 that was totally unreliable. But come on what can you reasonably expect when you try to warranty a 10-year-old product that had a 1-year warranty? And to prevent this problem, ensure that you use the proper lock tight on your front sight and the proper torque. I thought maybe it was a lemon gun, so I did some extensive Interweb searching and found numerous forums where others had the same complaint. I will make it a point to try. I suppose that means if I were starting over and choosing one of the three available models, Id go with the normal 4 or 5 and supply my own thread adapter. So, if you dryfire a lot, you have to have snap caps or dummy rounds to take that impact from the firing pin. Just pull the slide back slightly as with Glocks or CZs and engage the takedown lever. I never set out to do a "from the box to the range . I was missing a .22 in my collection, I am Very Happy I chose this pistol. I never see Walther anything at any local gunstores. discussions around Walther firearms including but not limited to the PPK, PPK/S, PP, P38, PPQ, PPS, P99, PPX, CCP, PK380, P22, G22, WA2000, VG, G43, G41, MP, CREED, and Q5 Match. Barrel Length:Available in 4, 4 + thread adapter, or 5 with long slide. I see that as getting use to the trigger. (This is a reader gun review contest entry,click here for more details enter by December 19th!). I did not expect much out of the trigger but after the first couple of shots I discovered that the trigger was what set this gun apart. I can only imagine that the 5 version with its longer sight radius and fiber optic front (something Im used to from my competition gun) would be even better not that it would matter under like 30 yards, where I feel like Im basically incapable of missing with the PPQ .22. Home of the handguns. I also put lots of bare lead or waxed lead through the PPQ. The gun looks and feels great, but I've had nothing but issues shooting it. The moment I first fired the PPQ, I knew the trigger was in a league of its own. Looking forward one day to own an M1 9mm. My buddy who joined me on the range one day actually hit the target quite a bit with it, which is quite the anomaly. In this video, I point out several of these issues and provide specific e. Please check this website and all safety notices on a regular basis for current information about your firearms. Looks normal. Thanks for the nice review. The trigger is a dream to shoot, the short reset in particular allowing for faster shots and superior accuracy. It is a common problem, especially with new shooters, because they treat their weapons gently and dont put enough force to seat the magazine into the gun. Just an odd but popular behavior. Sorry, that was a bit sloppy and colloquial rather than technically accurate. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. What ammo do you use on your PPQ M2? The PPQ 22 was great to shoot, it has the same great ergonomics of the centerfire pistol and shares the same controls. I took it apart and everything was clean. Am I dreaming or not? I sent the pistol back, they fixed it. Recommend to clean the gun every 300 rds. Press J to jump to the feed. Three backstraps accommodate different shooters as well. I hope Walther will be able to correct this in the future if the PPQ keeps up its popularity, but for now the customization options are sadly disappointing. I want to work on precision shooting, noncompetitive for now. ThenI picked up and shot a PPQ. Walther PPQ troubleshooting and basic maintenance are covered here. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. Jan 17, 2013. Are you having problems with your Walther PPQ? I have put (my estimate) about 50,000 rounds through it. Call them. Why this happens is mentioned below. The corrective measure to this problem is to strip the pistol and clean it. Then next day slide completely locked with Tulammo 115. I cannot believe the firearm left quality control like that. . In the box you will find one magazine. The other is that the actual notch on the slide stop goes up into the slide. I replaced them with Trijicon HDs and it made a big difference. Press down on both sides of the take-down catch. Whats the difference? The front sight is polymer and the rear is polymer and steel. The Walther PPQ is going to come with three-dot, white sights. First off it's bit picky with the ammo, which I can deal with, but is there any ammo, especially hollowpoints . The aluminum paddle is so much better looking and feeling, and only take a session or two at the range to master. Any problems or concerns with yours? Now I can field strip the PPQ and put it back together again in an average time of 30 seconds. Eight years after that, the P38 9mm was adapted as the standard service pistol of the German Army and saw decades of service in numerous countries following World War II. Walther calls it the quick-defense trigger. . In .22 LR? The rounds seem to eject and feed fine, looking at the ejection port when the slide is stuck doesnt seem to reveal any issues there. Well Ive had this issue as well. Accounts of this are all over the internet. I have had a completely different experience with Walther P22s. The P99 was great and never jammed, but I traded it in because I wanted a standard light rail (which the P99 still does not provide even after 3 generations). glad it worked out,,,,nothing worse then a brand new gun with issues. I found this a little disappointing since it could affect that person whos seriously using this as a less-expensive-to-shoot practice tool for their centerfire PPQ. I cant find if this gun is DA or only SA? However, the PPQ is significantly more ergonomic, carries the same magazine capacity (15 rounds), is easier to disassemble, truly ambidextrous, and above all, has that dream like trigger. What is the deal with dry firing it? According to Walthers web site, the PPQ M2 22 slide is die cast zinc, just like the P22. I have a PPQ 9mm that's never skipped a beat. Walther does make an extended 17-round magazine, but I have yet to attain one and test it out for myself. 9mm Pistol, http://www.kygunco.com/walther-ppq-m2-22lr-12rd-magazine-73229. It differs from the earlier M1 in that theres a reversible mag-release button instead of a paddle, and it accepts different magazines as well. One of those moving parts is an internal hammer, which is a big divergence from the striker-fired centerfire models. Like most factory sights on a pistols they do leave a lot to be desired. The ergonmics alone have increased my 8 yd accuracy of 17 rounds to 1.8 in. I dont believe that these were meant to be activated by the thumb and these folks should try using the trigger finger to actuate the magazine release. The stainless steel construction is excellent. I was Shooting my PPQ last week and i was having problems with it not loading rounds properly. The PPQ has a 100% pre-cocked trigger thereby making it Single Action. Dont know if we would upgrade to a S&W or Walter in 9mm later. As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Dirty breechface or rails: When there is a lot of carbon build-up on the breechface, it causes this issue. I leaned towards Glocks, then the PPQ M2 9mm came out. Sometimes, this can happen when you take the sear housing assembly out of the pistol frame, and the trigger bar guide will come apart from the sear housing. Fit and finish are beautiful as well, this is a really nice firearm when you inspect it, unlike the colt and sig 1911 22s. Ergonomics: * ** * I picked up the Walther PPQ Q5 Match (MSRP: $849, WaltherArms.com) and headed over to a lane at the indoor range, sighting in the Trijicon RMR, the first red dot I was going to test. I just bought a PPQ M1. This by the way, is where the PPQ meets its major roadblock. First check ammo, then magazines. I couldnt resist how it felt in my hand, and oh what a magical trigger reset! Its possible that a .22 LR doesnt punch the slide backwards with enough authority to reliably cock a striker with a spring stiff enough to ignite a .22 LR (vicious cycle, that), whereas a hammer can have enough leverage on it to work, but thats just a guess as to why Walther made this change for the .22. I hate when I shoot a lot of .22 LR and my thumb has a giant lead streak on it from loading bare lead bullets. Some other functional similarities did carry over from Walthers other .22 LR pistols (P22, primarily), such as a fixed, threaded barrel thats clamped into the barrel block by a sleeve and a nut on the end. Walther CCP M2 Serrated Trigger and Trigger Guard Checkering 3. You anti-trigger-pull people must hate dry firing for practice then? New Walther PPS M2 jamming with anything but brass. We have fired the SR22 and liked it, but the safety and slide are pretty stiff for my wife. Jul 17, 2017. I was shooting Winchester Ranger ammunition .40 S&W 165 grain. The frame is the same polymer that you get on the big boy toys, and it has steel inserts for the slide rails, barrel block, and basically all of the moving parts. The Striker Photo source: Walther Forums. On the plus side when compared to a .22 conversion slide, the PPQ route is a complete pistol so it isnt just a paperweight when it isnt installed on your frame (which then, of course, turns your centerfire upper into a paperweight). Anyway, I like the PPQ, and I like the P7 the CCP copies (poorly). Must admit it would be used primarily for steel plate shooting so the 5 is probably the better option. We encountered an issue with the PPQ SC when manually cycling the slide. The simple fix to this problem is to clean the barrel, the chamber, and the pistol. The solution is to install a new magazine release spring and bumper. True. 'Classic' here, no problems. There is nothing dangerous about dry firing the pistol to disassemble. I have heard of a few guys who have over 40,000 rounds . I have also fired my own PPQ-M2 a few hundred rounds without any issues. No feeding or extraction problems at all . In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. Each time I had several unintentional double-taps. If there is a bullet inside of it, then disassemble the pistol to clear it. Around 3000 rounds in less than a year on mine and still loving it. If you love to wear hoodies? Their representative Conner in customer service, refused to have it returned for Walther to fix the firearm. So, gonna have to spend some T&E time with this one, burn some ammo and figure it o Well, I thought this was going to be a good battle, turns out the 2nd Walther PPQ started doing the exact same thing as . HK VP9sk is a lot better option, or CZ P-10c in the same size. After ~3k rounds still no issues other than some dirty Armscor FTEs. The solution is to install a new magazine release spring and bumper. What a target like that doesnt say is how easy a gun is to shoot accurately when youre out on the range. The Walther PPQ gives accuracy. I could not believe that it was legal to sell such a piece of junk. Best trigger on the polymer semiauto marketdarn close to a good 1911 trigger. Thanks for the write up, Ive always liked this pistol from the moment I picked it up. So, the lugs on the barrel will not correctly align inside the locking block. Not a single failure of any sort since taking it out of the box when it was brand new. [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] Mentioned below are its causes and solutions. Haven't heard much in the way of problems with the 9mm and 40S&W versions. The PPQ fed about 100 rounds of WWB flawlessly. That being said, shooting the PPQ is a blast! I personally do not want to own a firearm from a Company that will not stand behind their product. The P22 has normal pistol style but is downscaled and much smaller, so you can still tell its a .22 mostly due to the tiny grip circumference. I look forward in the future to putting more types of ammo through the PPQ and seeing if its reliability holds up, which I suspect it will. However, if you have a Canik TP9SFX/TP9SF/TP9SFT the 18 round mags DO work in the full size frame. Walther PPQ M2 Features. very reliable, at least with one type of ammo Even many of them that appear to have thick barrels and dont have a removable sleeve actually have only a very thin, steel barrel insert inside of a wrapper of polymer or an inexpensive metal over it to give it the look of being thicker. A range master took a look at it, and it discharged while uncocked, finger off trigger. But I will take the quicker reset myself. Im working in reverse order and am very interested in the .22 version. The sights, trigger, grip are a grand slam. Beyond these items, theres very little that Walther has to offer. Then youre capable of safely stripping this gun apart. Failure to Feed. The Walther PPQ M2 for sale is an ideal self-defense handgun with superior ergonomics and fast, on-target performance. Its an excellent design. Also, my first 100 rounds did have a few unintentional double taps. Failure to stay open is the failure for the slide to lock to the rear on the empty magazine. Below are the causes of this problem and their solutions. I have the PPQ M2 with an Apex trigger upgrade. [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] I attribute this to many qualities of the pistol: the ergonomics, trigger, and good engineering from Walther. Upside is you get a little FTF practice so long as you dont break your hand with an AD. Supposedly it was for the OSS, to use in suppressed .22 caliber firearms in combat, the jackets being required under the Hague Convention. Laugh. The slide is not in the battery: One probable cause of this malfunction is that the slide is not in the battery. PPQ M1 .40. The high bore axis is not something people should be dealing with when it comes to modern polymer guns. No pot metal. Not as happy with the 22LR version. What's more, the PPQ M2 has been updated with a new traditional reversible mag release button. This gun feels really solid for a polymer framed pistol. However, the normal PPQ .22 mag is a 12-rounder, which does set it apart from the very much industry standard 10-round capacity. 9 Cleaning Kit with Aluminum Rod, GuardTech Plus Upgraded Universal Gun Cleaning Kit iunio Gun Cleaning Kit, Universal Gun Cleaning, Eotech 512 vs 552 Which One Should You Choose. Ive shot a PPQ several times and feel it is one of the finest, if not the finest, polymer pistol available, but the trigger is my only complaint and thats what stopped me from buying one. Sight Radius: 6.4 inches. back on november 16, 2018 we issued a recall on pps m2's with certain serial numbers. I will never part with this firearm. This is The Best Running .22 pistol I have Ever used in 55 years. BEST OVERALL: T4E Walther PPQ .43 Caliber Pistol: Prime Eligible: Check on Amazon: BEST FOR BEGINNERS: Tippmann Cronus Paintball Marker: Prime Eligible: Check on Amazon: BEST LIVE TRAINING ALTERNATIVE: Umarex T4E Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 .43 Pistol: Prime Eligible: Check on Amazon: BEST BUDGET: Spyder Victor Semi-Auto Paintball Marker: Prime . I will never ever buy another Walther anything. potentially concealable 1. It would put it self on safety when fired a few times. The Walther PPQ M1 is my favorite for now. You can also use it as a home defense gun and range toy. My bet is that there are discussions elsewhere about this and would like to know myself. I took it apart and everything was clean. You forgot to mention that the rear of the extractor becomes sunken below the surface of the slide so that you can tell by touch when a round is chambered. I just recently picked up a new Walther PPS M2 LE when gun buyers had their sale and I absolutely love the gun so far. Im not registering my finger. This full-size 9mm or 45 ACP striker-fired pistol features a textured grip surface and three interchangeable backstraps, an integral Picatinny rail for mounting aftermarket accessories, three-dot low profile sights that won't snag when drawn from concealment, and a double . I love the paddle release. No trigger pull required. I was Shooting my PPQ last week and i was having problems with it not loading rounds properly. The PPQ has a Tenifer finish applied to the barrel and slide. But, on the other hand, I shot mine for years before this ever started to happen. Does anyone have the same problem? Might be a problem for somebody wanting to use the centerfire PPQ defensively or in competition, but not very likely to matter at all on the .22 plinker. The bullets in question are actually plated, not jacketed. Weak magazine release spring: This means that as you are shooting, the spring is so weak that your grip interferes with the button and depresses it. Steel targets no problem. Walther said that is all they had because the gun (original version) is no longer made. Short answer: Yes to both questions. 2 of my friends already bought one. Replace the ammunition to fix this issue. In general HV stuff (1200 fps+) seems to work well. The straightforward fix to this is to clean your chamber. These guns are tack drivers. Primarily this is intended for mounting a suppressor, but if youre bored you can also mount any AR-15 or other 1/228 muzzle device: A P22 thread adapter does work on the PPQ, so that opens up options for aftermarket versions. Please Wait. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Good review. The following are its causes and their solutions. Here is the disassembly process for the PPQ: 2. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Turned out the firing pin was snapped in half, and the grip frame wasn't made right. What exact problems have been reported with the ppq m2 4"? I love my PPQs. I had a P22hated it.said id never buy another Walther.bought this one LOVE IT..it is not a P22. If I had to choose between the PPQ and the VP9 I would take the PPQ every time. Having diverse .45s and a Glock 20 (with an extra .40cal barrel), I went with the PPQ. This was my first Purchase of a Walther Firearm. Not machined aluminum. Thin barrels is also pretty standard for many .22s on the market. I for one am a huge fan of the DA/SA striker on the gun with the ability to decock and carry one in the pipe. When I first bought the pistol, I initially struggled with getting the take down catch to push down correctly, but after a few tries I got the hang of it. Shooter-induced limp wristing: This problem can also occur due to limp wristing. it wouldnt be a big deal, but this was the first pistol i ever bought, so was very special, and now i am without. Again, the solution is to replace the whole assembly. Next, and my biggest issue with this gun is that the slide is consistently fails to return to battery or is delayed by half a second or so. Why wouldnt I just get a plentiful new or used GLOCK brand GLOCK for less $? The 4-inch PPQ M2 barrel will fit in both frame sizes, but only when mated to 4-inch slides. Federal is a lighter charge like UMC, and some guns have problems with it. The magazine release is also handy; Walther switched from the paddle release in order to appeal to the American shooting market, and by all means I feel they made the right choice. 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