Like the people who are listening are like, "Wait, who's the senator?". Chris Hayes: -- 54 in 1920, 59 and then famously 60 in 1927. I mean, theres a couple of things here. Like, wait a second, how does this happen? Twitter users who were interested in inspecting the books that formed the backdrop to the photo noticed that when they magnified the picture, a document with a swastika on its cover was visible near Hayess right hip. Rachel Maddow: I mean, is that a story about the limitations to the critical law? Rachel Maddow: Theyre running, literally, Hitler youth summer camps --. Chris Hayes: Oh, my God, this is amazing. Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 5, 2022. Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 4, 2022. If you listen to Bagman, it'll be familiar, but it's also different and new. And thats just always going to be true. J. Edgar Hoover, head of the FBI, announces it. It has all of the kind of like context, and history, and pacing, and sort of just like narrative oomph of like a great Rachel A block, but with all the production abilities of a great podcast. But the reason the Justice Department put them on trial is bananas and is totally worth telling, and is an incredibly resonant snapshot of a previous iteration of the allure of authoritarianism in this country and what it took to fight it. When Alex Wagner debuts her new MSNBC show on Tuesday, she will be taking on an unusual arrangement . Search us for WITHpod. Chris Hayes: Yeah. But I find it really interesting, so you're along for the ride. Why Is This Happening? is presented by MSNBC and NBC News, produced by Doni Holloway and Brendan O'Melia, engineered by Bob Mallory and features music by Eddie Cooper. Like yeah, what Huey Long is saying right there would work now. Here in the televisual medium for a very, very special, exciting episode, I'm going to start with a sports metaphor, if you'll indulge me. And he gave me some two-sentence sketch that he'd been given. And he gets locked up for embezzling from the German American Bund because, I mean --, Rachel Maddow: -- one of the historic truths that you keep bumping up against is that a lot of people who have fascist and authoritarian impulses and move in these directions, theyre also grifters and --. And I also was like, I guess, I just never heard of the senator. Rachel Maddow is incredible. I'm getting weirdly teary. As its afternoon shows hosted by Ronan Farrow and Joy Reid are canceled due to poor ratings, MSNBC is reportedly planning to replace Chris Hayes with Rachel Maddow. So that, to me, was like incredibly exciting. 715: March 20, 2019 () Paul Giamatti, Senator Doug Jones: Aparna Nancherla: Doin' It Donkey Style. Are you the local activist whos worried about people getting beat up outside this sort of antisemitic street meetings? Rachel Maddow: -- if you are on trial, it means you --, Rachel Maddow: -- to overthrow the government and failed and the extent government is now trying you for having tried and failed to do it. Chris Hayes: Oh it's the full pamphlet. You know, and so were like Im playing YouTube clips of Huey Long speeches. Rachel Maddow: -- and freaks and crooks and, you know, people who dont pay their taxes. B, you can petition your local city council and police to take action within the existing law and without violating the right of free speech against the incitements to riot from the Christian Front. And they're right, like, they earned it. Rachel Maddow: I love that, but it takes a lot of work. One of her new projects is "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," a podcast all about the history of pre-World-War-two American fascism, and those who worked to stop it. He interviews guys on the Nazi side of the plot to say, in fact, were you working with these Americans and gets them on the record from their cells at Nuremberg saying yeah, these were the Americans who we are working with. In the "National Day of Racial Healing: An MSNBC Town Hall," MSNBC's Chris Hayes, Joy Reid and Trymaine Lee talk with activists, journalists, artists and experts to explore the harm racism has caused in our society, and to consider how we might heal from it. But this highly. But compartmentalization is important so that you can work this intensely. Search it up, thats what my kids say. And when you read it, it sends you to Wikipedia because you're like, wait, how much of this is Philip Roth --. They named him Home Run Baker because of how many home runs he hit, and he hit 11. "He's an extraordinary talent and has made a strong connection with our audience." [35] The combination of those things is something that the Justice Department tried to tackle through a mass sedition trial in 1944. Chris Hayes: And its also fascinating. Its called "The Christian Front: Coughlins Storm Troopers," which was put out by an anti-fascist organization that was trying to raise awareness about the Christian Front. Read our editorial standards. I think there needs to be a bigger, broader, anti-fascist movement where people actually have work to do every day in trying to fight fascism and save the country, she urged. Like, you're getting the name of the senator. But I do think that the power that he has over his listeners and the power he has to influence events makes him fall in love with the idea of the strong man as the savior --. A joke dies, they cut it. Rachel Maddow: And so, you end up with all sorts of ways that the criminal law can be engaged against some of these leaders, you know, and thats not definitionally true, just historically recurring. And the great sedition trial in the end doesnt work for all sorts of amazing reasons, and he ends his career at the Justice Department. Right --. . The ReidOut. Rachel Maddow: -- nodding along. It kind of worked and he kind of broke it up. I communicate for a living. Rachel Maddow: Let's take it beyond Ernest Lundeen. Chris Hayes: Hello and welcome to "Why Is This Happening?" It's the most --. So that idea of accountability, like there is a role for institutions like the church. The internet went into a frenzy, and as show time approached, Maddow tweeted that the tax return in question was Trump's 1040 from 2005. I mean, if you take people at face value and you believe that they are arguing earnestly for what they believe, those are fascinating and substantive arguments, which also occluded a lot of active fascist-organizing in the United States at the time. And shes just this devout, young Catholic woman whos disgusted by it, who infiltrates them, starts on newspaper, pressures the police, gets them raided and takes it on herself, and then --. And like, you get figures like this sometimes, right? By Alex Wagner? Earlier in his program, Hayes recounted an. And that was part of what was hard about drafting the podcast because you could do the whole thing on Coughlin and the Christian Front, right? Theyre only being persecuted now as payback for all the evil things they have done, social justice. It's called "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra." Right. I love that scientific part of it. The historical, narrative style pod could hardly be more relevant, as the plot revolves around a sedition trial quite similar to the ongoing Oath Keepers one. We were against them --. Chris Hayes: -- senator from Minnesota. Maddow is best known for hosting MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show.She is known . Up w/ Chris Hayes: Are we in an era of post-truth politics? And were on the train leaving New Orleans heading towards Texas, and were growing across the Huey Long Bridge. Sour Patch Lyds (@sourpatchlyds) October 5, 2022. Before she went live, the White House responded,. Its really --. And the fact is that even after Pearl Harbor, the groups that were planning the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, they took on a different caste because then, you know, we were at war. Babe Ruth just completely annihilates the records, hits 29 in 1919 --. Rachel Maddow: Did this really happen or is this a play? Rachel Maddow: Yes, and that's got a whole lot of technical elements to it, like, dont --, Rachel Maddow: -- dont use too many proper nouns that are --, Chris Hayes: -- magicians trick, it really is, like --, Rachel Maddow: -- but you know how to do it. Chris Hayes: He really does, one of the genuine talents he has is sort of terrible in everything else. Chris Hayes: We should talk about, since its mentioned, the title is "The Christian Front: Coughlins Storm Troopers," and maybe we should talk a little bit of Coughlin because he is a key figure. Rachel Maddow: Yes. And they sent a sort of wunderkind prosecutor down to Louisiana. Rachel Maddow: That's why I'm always up after midnight working on this stuff. Tweet us with the hashtag #WITHpod, email WITHpod@gmail.com. And Rachel is just on another level as a communicator and a storyteller, and incredibly innovative in that respect as well, just at a technical level, which I think we're going to talk about a little bit, even though it's like a little inside (ph). So, but that gets only (ph) --. Chris Hayes: -- tools of liberal democracy. I mean --, Chris Hayes: -- and through time, I mean, I think thats also partly, in a weird way theres actually kind of something comforting about it insofar as a liberal democratic open society is going to face existential foes to that liberalism almost as a matter of just reality. And his training is all in the clan, right. Rachel Maddow: -- like, that night, and was coming back. I mean, its all of those things. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. And I'm hoping, in some ways, that learning the history of other Americans who've done it well can give us some energy. And I want to learn your sort of lessons about how to live in the face of these kinds of threats. Rachel Maddow: -- your story and learn it. Similarly, with the great sedition trial in 1944, which is sort of amazing that they brought it in 1944 --, Chris Hayes: Right, yes, right, right, right --, Rachel Maddow: -- given what happened in 1940 when they tried it against the Christian Front, that trial has gone down in history as a failure or as a sideshow or, in some cases, as a debacle because it wasn't a successful prosecution. I'm not spoiling it. Like, that theres no final victory over the forces of it, even though I feel like the story of World War II and particularly the story of that, you know, its like the defeat of Nazis and fascism, the purging of Nazis and fascists from the continent, although not really in France. Chris Hayes, Nico Parker: N/A: Late Show Presents: Meanwhile. That deal will give Maddow, the highest-rated host on MSNBC, a jaw-dropping $30 million per year to keep her with the company through the 2024 election, according to four people familiar with the matter. In its zeal to pin the blame for its own incompetence and for Epsteins crimes on Maxwell, the Government breached its promise. Chris Hayes: As opposed to, like, no, liberal democracy is a hard thing to maintain. Rachel Maddow joins Chris Hayes to talk about her new podcast, how we can use history to make sense of current events, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment. I had also taken out the name of the flight attendant, but I put the name of the flight attendant back in in a later draft, because you need to be able to picture her name on the piece of paper that we describe when we bring out --, Rachel Maddow: -- the flight attendant later in the story. Rachel Maddow: -- for a lot of the time that he was arguing this. We are in utterly uncharted territory." Ai. I feel like this idea that we're dealing with pro-authoritarian impulses on the right as connected to electoral politics, that being some sort of unprecedented challenge, it doesn't feel unprecedented to me. Chris Hayes: You know, so there are these attempts that fail where its like, no, you cant do that. The Today Show executive was not fired. Rachel Maddow: -- isolationists to move in, right? What's the story? The Rachel Maddow Show. As part of the deal, Maddow's long-running 9 p.m . Its hard. Are you a prosecutor working in the southern district of New York whos, you know, deciding whether or not the FBI thats not interested in these things could be trusted to infiltrate these groups or whether or not youre going to tap these outside activist groups and take their information to build your prosecution around? Rachel Maddow: And so I think, talking about Coughlin, I mean, his newspaper is called "Social Justice" --, Rachel Maddow: -- right? Maddow seeks to explain our complex world and deliver news in a way that's illuminating and dynamic, connecting the dots to make sense of complex issues. Hayes and Shaw now resided in Washington, D.C. Rachel Maddow: Oh, in terms of legitimately not knowing what's coming next? So there's a new podcast out. Chris Hayes: A lot of people really want it, and they like it. Chris Hayes is . I'm paraphrasing. And hes effectively calling for pogroms in this country after Kristallnacht happens in November 1938. It is a fascist myth to believe that you need a strong man to lead a fascist movement where you need is people who have an appetite. I think were capable of it. Copyright 2023 The Western Journal. And some of them were activists and infiltrators, and anti-fascist movement participants. Lack has taken a large role in rehabilitating Williams's career, which took a big hit in 2015 when he was removed as anchor of "NBC Nightly News" over revelations he exaggerated stories about his. Doni, do you remember what you told him? Chris Hayes: And then what you uncover is that, like, prior to Pearl Harbor, there was a huge amount of Nazi sympathy in the United States. And then they orchestrated using agent provocateur. It was the seventh most-watched show in the first quarter of 2017. Not to be weird but, like, I'm very grateful to the executives at the company who said I could do this, because it means that I don't have to quit doing what I'm doing. Lundeen gets run out of literally on a rail out of his congressional district for opposing World War I, which is a very different thing than opposing World War II --, And what I find fascinating about is like the ideological trajectory of these figures around this time and how people navigate through, once everything is presented is on the table, right? Rachel Maddow: And where we get to from that is a Nazi plot --. And I've been kind of like champing at bit of, like, OK, what do we do here? Culture Rachel Maddow Coronavirus MSNBC TV. . Rachel Maddow is incredible. Now, this is basically the standard for American League home run leaders for like the entirety of the first 20 years of the 20th century. Chris Hayes: It's fascinating, theres clips of Coughlin in the show. But at the same time, like, could you get a successful seditious conspiracy prosecution against Donald Trump with all the evidence we have? And who did FDR fear more than any other rising leader in the United States was Huey Long. And then everyone starts doing it differently or some people try to do it differently, even if they're not quite as good. As I'm speaking to you, I think the podcast is available now wherever you get your podcast. You also agree to our. You could do the whole thing on William Dudley Pelley in the Silver Shirts, which is a crazy story. I brought you the whole thing. As reported by the website Vice, the Goodwill of Western New York online store was selling mugs adorned with the swastika, the motto of the SS (My honor is called loyalty), and the face of Adolf Hilter. Politico obtained a purported majority opinion draft of the Supreme Court showing that the court is poised to overturn the 1973 landmark decision Roe v. Wade which legalizes abortions in all states up to the point of fetal viability24-28 weeks gestation. You can also watch "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Monday nights. Rachel Maddow: -- stockpiling bombs and detailed plans. But I'll tell you, the name of the secretary. One of her new projects is "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," a podcast all about the history of pre-World-War-two American fascism, and those who worked to stop it. He gets fired by going rogue and saying, "We didnt get a conviction, but Im going to tell you what our evidence was. And its a speech --. Chris Hayes: Do you think we have the right antibodies now? ", Chris Hayes: Like, a round of applause for this, like --, Chris Hayes: -- please, yes. And also the theology around tyranny and sedition, being a nuanced thing that Coughlin was very cognizant of and was playing with, even as his followers were being put on trial for sedition for having them what he told them to do. Rachel Maddow: You're killing me. There's some sort of conventions to some game or genre, whether it's artistic medium or it's a sport, you know, Michael Jordan, Picasso, Steve Jobs, like people that just do this thing that other people are doing. And theres people who have done better scholarship on Coughlin that I can even sum up here, let alone try to ape. And that means that the history of it, to the extent that there is any history of it, has been written by the right and by people who are sympathizers of the defendants --. Similarly, his birthplace is Norwood, Bronx. I mean, they were in control but also profoundly corrupt. He took months and months and months, and it was very, very dangerous work because of what he was doing. They didn't want Nazi war criminals being put on trial because that was unfair to the Nazis. Rachel Maddow: And then you were in local morning radio and working this hard, and then you were working for the ACLU --. Jon Stewart enters the game - In light of the influence Jon Stewart had in encouraging the passage of the 9/11 first responders bill, The Rachel Maddow Show replays a portion of his interview with Rachel Maddow in which he discusses whether he's a player or spectator in the game of politics. (L-R) Alex Wagner and Rachel Maddow Patrick Randak/MSNBC/Getty Images. Chris Hayes: That's a hell of a person to plagiarize. Huey Long, of course, was assassinated, which is what put an end to his political career. I can keep doing what I'm doing. I mean, what I do think about is not assuming that anybody knows anything, but also expecting that everybody can go everywhere, right. Chris Hayes: -- and it's funny, too, because I've been thinking about this as I'm listening to your "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," I'm thinking about, you know, the Russians, who have an incredibly profound mythology around World War II, justified by the fact that they lost more lives than anyone in --, Chris Hayes: -- defeating Hitler's army. Rachel Maddow: -- how many Americans are paying attention to him. Chris Hayes: Yeah, exactly. Maddow joins WITHpod to discuss what shes been up to, how she found the story thats told in her new podcast, the editorial and creative process that has followed and more. They've arrested these guys and put them on trial for sedition because they were stockpiling bombs and working with stolen military heavy machine guns, and they had a plot to simultaneously assassinate 12 members of Congress and violently attack armories and U.S. government outposts and take over the U.S. government, 80 years to the day from the Christian Front to the Oath Keepers sedition arrest. And then the Cold War, right? And I was like, I feel like I would know if that happened. Chris Hayes: Its enemies are everywhere, all the time. Deadline: White House. So --. I feel like that's part of it all getting scrubbed because it's like, oh, well, that was all before. I've definitely learned that I can't do everything alone and that there is no such thing as a one-man-band in this business. Chris Hayes: -- because its like, look, well, it turned around in the end. If passed, this bill in Iowa would pose a massive challenge to the federal government's recognition of same-sex marriage. Chris Hayes: -- its a very good compelling story. But no sooner did they move to New York City. Chris Hayes: But thats why, to me, your focus here on the sort of civic antibodies are so key, right? Where is the threat to walk out, to boycott, to stand on principle, by Rachel Maddow? And so, deciding that we won in the war --, Rachel Maddow: -- and, therefore, that vanquished --, Rachel Maddow: And all Americans came around --. Rachel Maddow: I just took this long-haul train trip with my family as our family vacation. He hates the bankers, which then, you know, one notch past that, right? Hayes is renowned for his role as the host of the All In with Chris Hayes weekday news show which airs on MSNBC. And I was just like, OK, well. By MSNBC staff. Chris Hayes: Right, right. And I have, I feel it emotionally, right, that like the criminal justice system should be able to sort this out and issue some definitive declaration about what is and isnt in bounds, what is and is not a transgression. Chris Hayes: You have this detail about he reprints -- Goebbels --. He's an unlikely success at MSNBC, coming from the relatively small world of left-wing magazines as an editor of The Nation and a socialist newspaper in Chicago before that. Justice Department caves, fires the prosecutor. Chris Hayes: Everyone gets to see what I do. And sedition is, therefore, very hard to prove because anybody whos on trial for sedition --, Rachel Maddow: -- did not have an effective --, Rachel Maddow: -- seditious plan. You can see more of our work, including links to things we mentioned here, by going to nbcnews.com/whyisthishappening. We are committed to truth and accuracy in all of our journalism. The presence of a swastika in the background of a photo posted by MSNBC host Chris Hayes gave Twitter a chortle this week. Rachel Maddow: That makes for a good country song. Rachel Maddow: The clan is a fascist terrorist movement --, Rachel Maddow: -- in this country. I mean, dont make --. Chris Hayes is an American political commentator, television news anchor, and author. I mean, so the German American Bund is --. Rachel Maddow: Like, you and I have talked about this over the years, about how important that is and how you make sure with your staff there's an expectation that nobody is working through the weekend --, Rachel Maddow: -- yes, stuff comes up and there's --. "We were children together and now we're grey-haired television anchors,". Sometimes it's like there are exogenous factors. Oct. 12, 2022, 3:29 PM PDT By Why Is This. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. And then it's here. What is Rachel Maddow's Net Worth and Salary? The Rachel Maddow Show airs Mondays at 9pm ET on MSNBC, and shortly thereafter in this feed. You may opt out at anytime. Rachel Maddow: That makes for a good booze ballad. And you need the prosecution, you need the investigation, you need the Justice Department to be engaged in things like this, but it's actually not the solution. Rachel Maddow: And its like, you know what, Francis Sweeney, you know, I dont know if there ought to be a statue to you, but I definitely want to read a lot more about you and know --. January 17th, 80 years to the day earlier, January 17th, 1940, the front-page story in every newspaper in the country is about the arrest of 17 members of the Christian Front militia. How are you going to take this very distinct, particular, you know, I think generational ability to tell stories in other fashions and forms and genres. Actually, when I heard the gloss (ph), and I was like, that can't be right. Theres other nuances but --, Chris Hayes: -- you know, I mean, Hitler literally led a mob against the seat of government --. Rachel Maddow: -- fight fascism and save the country. So you get that name. I think that our professional, and civic and religious institutions can be strong, but can also be hurt. They do that over and over in the workrooms and the app gets better and better and tighter and tighter, and the really good ones come up with something amazing that they could show up at any room across the country and kill. And those are some of the really interesting stories that I think are very much lost to history. Luckily for us, her decision to dial back from the nightly cable news grind has allowed her to create a work in new media. "Rachel Maddow, you've got some explaining to do," Ball said, but Maddow hasn't stopped anti-Trump speculation. Rachel Maddow: A paid agent of Hitler's government working with members of Congress and members of the United States Senate to distribute, literally, propaganda written by the German government targeting the American people in quantity. Here's the thing, I'm in this weird thing where it's like I don't want to spoil it, but kind of have to talk about the content of the podcast. And the Justice Department, youre the Justice Department, you cant do that. See, if I was not televisual, I could be like in 1913, the American League home run leader was a guy named Home Run Baker. The game operated a certain way. Last night, both Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow interviewed activists drawn to D.C. this week to advocate for gun control because they have personal experience with mass-shootings. Into America. I was burning myself out physically and mentally in a way that meant that I was not going to be able to keep doing this for very long. I mean, you can't have people who are afraid to tell you no, you can't. But the thing that was very exciting to me about that was like, oh, well, let's see what Babe Ruth is going to do next. apartments in dallas that allow airbnb Uncovering hot babes since 1919. Rachel Maddow: -- you are smart, and you can travel this path with me, but we will both start with this first step. But they expected to go forward with this armed effort to stop the transfer of power in the United States. Can you imagine if former President Donald Trump said this? Chris Hayes: You know, then we went to war and then we beat the Nazis. blend together . Chris hosts programs like beat with Chris Hayes, a weekday news and opinion television program on MSNBC. And I just go, "This is what its like to go on vacation.". So we start off with the story of the senator who you've never heard of. There are parts about fascist rhetoric that are compelling in their own twisted terrible way. And now you're working harder than you were working at the job that was killing you before. MSNBC's Chris Hayes Posts Photo with Rachel Maddow, Then Users Notice Symbol Next to Them By Jack Davis October 6, 2022 at 8:34am The presence of a swastika in the background of a photo posted by MSNBC host Chris Hayes gave Twitter a chortle this week. So when Doni, our producer who's here, you guys are very closely held with the details of this, which made sense. Rachel Maddow: And so, now she's like, you didn't retire --, Rachel Maddow: -- you changed jobs. I try to tell stories for a living. I mean, obviously it's your voice, and you have a very good voice technically, but a Rachel Maddow way of telling a story that happens in this podcast where it's like, "I'm in it. Justice Department can only speak through its actions in court. MSNBC pundit Rachel Maddow recently announced that her partner Susan Mikula tested positive for COVID-19 . Chris Hayes discusses All In and recent politics. 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